Ahoyhoy internets, DaveHowitzer here with the first draft of the 2k Eldar. Thoughts/ripping it apart please. And yes, Archnomad has already =P Eldrad 210
Farseer 55
Runes of Witnessing 10
Spirit Stones 20
Fortune 30
Doom 25
140
Fire Dragons x5 80
Wave serpent 90`
T/l Shuriken Cannons 10
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
190
Fire Dragons x5 80
Wave serpent 90`
T/l Shuriken Cannons 10
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
190
Fire Dragons x5 80
Wave serpent 90`
T/l Shuriken Cannons 10
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
190
Dire Avengers x5 60
Wave Serpent 90
Brightlance 45
195
Dire Avengers x5 60
Wave Serpent 90
Brightlance 45
195
Guardian Jetbike Squad x3 66
Shuriken Cannon 10
Guardian Jetbike Squad x3 66
Shuriken Cannon 10
Fire Prism 115
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
125
Fire Prism 115
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
125
Fire Prism 115
Chin Shuriken Cannon 10
125
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I still don't like the chin shuricannons or lack of holo fields. o.O
And I would have spirit stones on my transports. And I don't think you need Eldrad and another Farseer in 1500.
But hey, let's see what the internet says. xD
Only two DAVU's seems kinda light at 2000.
ReplyDeleteI've never got bright lances to do anything for me. They just aren't worth the cost. I'd just drop them for like EML or scatter lasers and use the dragons to pop open the land raiders.
Chin shuriken cannons are mandatory. Holo-fields and spirit stones are just point sinks on already way too expensive transports.
I think chin shuriken cannons are a good choice - you'll have so much strength 6 shots you'll be able to disable and even destroy light vehicles when you get up close and personal - which is often my approach.
ReplyDeleteI always take spirit stones, I've learned how valuable they are having not taken them a few times, and it cost me dearly.
I still wouldn't rate a third fire prism - why not go for something far more useful like another waveserpent with one large Dire Avenger squad Defend and Bladestorm? Great pinning unit there.
Also, despite what the internet likes to maintain, 3-man Guardian Jetbike squads are a bit of a pain. They're just too easy to shift Either go for 6-strong, or not at all! Hope that helps :)
Gentlemen; Archy, I know your comments from earlier, and while I think you're a great Eldar player...get back to the Skaven mate ;)
ReplyDeleteAs for the rest, I do agree with dropping one of the Prisms, I also think dropping the Bl's would be fine, as well as making the jetbikes 1 big unit. The big Avenger unit is a maybe, but I'll deffo be putting in another Troops choice, maybe more avengers mounted or rangers, maybe even storm guardians, as yet I don't know.
You'll see in the next incarnation of the list.
Personally
ReplyDeleteSecond farseer has nothing to really do here, I would drop him
I would drop the bikes.
The Aids Lance is indeed useless and so painfully over priced and underwhelming, you get a burning sensation 'down there' and walk funny whenever you put them in a list, EML is a better choice.
Dropping the third prism and putting a five man DAVU inside and an EML on it , will give you another scoring unit and a nice car for eldrad to hang about in ;o) 3 str 8 shots @ ap 2-3 is nice too.
personally I feel that holo's on prisms is just throwing points at the flusher.
Storm guardians are reasonable , I have found a slightly esoteric build to be pretty good with them. 2 melta's , and destructorlock with a spear. So a combination of 3 AT shots or a heavy flamer/pistols and an assault on a doomed target, they are pretty flexible, it also means with two units in your army you can throw down 19 meltaguns and 2 lascannons (equivalent) at 5 different targets.
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ReplyDeleteCheers everyone, new build will be up today when I've truely woken up XD
Folks, I'm still not sold on Chin Shuriken Cannon. "So Much S6" is, from this army, an extra 9 S6 shots. Of which 4.5 hit and then .75 glance and .75 pen. That's without cover.
ReplyDeleteSorry, still not sold on chin shuricannons. It also makes you more inclined to move 6", which means you're more susceptible to assaults. Which may not sound like that big a threat, but my 40k army atm is nids, and against me you wouldn't be using those cannons, cause if you did you'd be getting charged by something, while the hive guard went rambo on the prisms, which wont be using the shuriken cannons because it wants to stay 10 miles away from everything.
Sorry, still can't justify it.
The point with the chin cannons is that unlike the catapults, the cannons are an actual threat even when the main cannon is blown up. You can still hurt T6 and AV10–11 with them. Also, the added range means that you can usually shoot at whatever it is you're shooting your main gun with.
ReplyDeleteI use them all the time , the extra firepower is well worth it , especially with the craptacular BS of guardians, its ten measly points for another 3 str 6 shots, my 1750 list can put down around 40 str6 shots if needed.
ReplyDeleteyou really need the hits to be any good vs even light armour. as also mentioned it does give some redundancy vs wep destroyed.
My prisms have often killed more with their Scannon than the bloody prism laser as some games they never hit with it , *fething scatter dice ;o( also the prism is not effectively dead when the main gun gets shot off , which it will ......
sure you have to be a little careful about how and when you use all the guns, but they are nice to have , plus coupled with doom they mince tyranid mc's
over say 5 transports its only 50 points ,for 15 additional str 6 shots ? thats the nearest to cost effective you are going to get with the dated eldar book , what else can you possibly spend that on ? I suppose you could buy one Aids lance ?
lol....Aids Lance.... =P
ReplyDeleteSeriously if you get to following my blog , It will become fairly evident Im not from the team brightlance 'cheerleading' squad ;o)
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